Irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Stop trying to disrupt.
I read it. You're diverting the topic onto ''viable fetuses,'' which is a crock.
It is illegal to abort a viable fetus as you well know.
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Irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Stop trying to disrupt. I read it. You're diverting the topic onto ''viable fetuses,'' which is a crock. It is illegal to abort a viable fetus as you well know. |
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Wyld One 100 wrote:
A twelve year old with appendicitis isn't "viable" without medical treatment.
Since the twins were born early, do you think it would have been acceptable to shelf them and let them die?
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American Pig wrote: Thank you AP. That is especially nice to hear since we probably have differing stances more often than not. |
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NMOCM wrote: This is what I think a large part of this issue is. The pro-choice side is down playing the possibility of viable fetuses (old enough to live outside of the womb and having at least a small chance at a decent quality of life) being aborted for no good reason, and the pro-life side is doing the same thing on the lives and health of women being protected and saved. Regardless of percentages, both are important and should be looked at separately instead of being lumped together or disregarded wholesale. |
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Abortionist Tiller Admits to Performing Abortions the Day Before Delivery
http://www.lifesitenews.c...n/2008/mar/08031901.html His Speech at National Education Association By John-Henry Westen ARLINGTON, VA, March 19, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Notorious partial-birth abortion specialist Dr. George Tiller of Wichita, KS, was caught on hidden video admitting to aborting babies a day before the mother's due date. Students for Life of America (SFLA) today released the video which was made at the Feminist Majority Foundation's annual Women's Leadership Conference held at the National Education Association (NEA) on March 9. The video reveals Dr. Tiller showcasing massive and graphic pictures of children with fetal abnormalities that he had aborted, so as to make the case for late-term abortions as necessary medical procedure. SFLA's Executive Director Kristan Hawkins, who videotaped the conference and interviewed Tiller clandestinely, commented on the gruesome pictures of aborted children Tiller showed, saying, "One had an extra arm: could not that child had survived and received corrective surgery? Was violently killing the child the only way to go?" "Pro-lifers are regularly condemned for displaying pictures of aborted babies, but here the pro-abortion crowd and the NEA are more than happy to showcase these graphic images, and even gave Dr. Tiller's presentation a standing ovation," added Hawkins. Tiller, who currently faces 19 criminal charges for illegal late-term abortions in the state of Kansas, at first feigned ignorance of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, a federal bill signed into law in 2002 that protects born children from murder and illegalizes infanticide. However when questioned further about the measure he spoke of his ideological objection to the legislation, saying, "Let's say you have 15 or 16, you had 1 slip out with a heartbeat; that is not a viable fetus, but that is born alive or has a heartbeat. Then you have to take that non-viable fetus and rush it directly to the hospital against the woman's wishes." Given that the conference featuring Tiller was held at the National Education Association, it is probable that a good number of the more than three million members of the NEA would be voicing opposition if they were made aware of the situation. "As a pro-life teacher, I can say this illustrates why I am no longer a member of the NEA," said Marla Mercer, a West Virginia teacher and former member of the National Education Association. "The NEA should not be involved in this issue; here they are hosting this controversial abortionist and his slideshow of babies he has aborted. There is no way any of my money will ever be used to advance the radical pro-abortion agenda of Planned Parenthood and the NEA." Full video available online at: http://youtube.com/watch?v=wpr_sN04j_0 To send concerns to the National Education Association: http://www.nea.org/aboutnea/contact.html
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See, this is where me and most/all pro-lifers diverge: I "draw the line" at birth. Meaning, anything beforehand is considered abortion, and
anything afterwards is considered murder.
You consider a time of 3 seconds between pre born murder and post born murder. Not as an argument, but as a question, why there at that point. 3 second before birth, a health viable fetus can be killed without penalty, but 5 seconds later, you chop it up with a meat cleaver and you are a murder. I just don't "get" it. Allan |
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didanyoneusethis wrote: That's later....leading thinkers amongst the abortion lovers advocate legalizing abortion up to the 33rd month. |
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Tibs, you know I am against abortion. However i do know that before abortion was legal there were many dangerous illegal abortions. Ultimately God will make
the judgment about right or wrong. I don't know why middleaged males who are more or less out of the game of sexuality get so worked up over abortions. For
instance, Tiller's killer is a 51 year old guy. Is he even married? Males who are inordinately concerned over women's pregnancies have something not
right with their minds.
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I don't know why so many lesbians get so worked up as wild-eyed pro-abortionists. It's not like they will ever have one. By the way actual research
shows that the pro-abortionist claim of thousands of back alley illegal abortions was a myth. Most illegal abortions were performed in Mexican clinics.
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I'm personally against the killing of abortionists but who am I to impose my morality on anyone else. This man merely was exercising his right to choose
and he chose to kill Tiller.
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"For instance, Tiller's killer is a 51 year old guy. Is he even married? Males who are inordinately concerned over women's pregnancies have
something not right with their minds."
Would you say that white men who were inordinately concerned with slavery even to the point of having a civil war had something wrong with their minds too? |
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Wyld One 100 |
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I'm personally against the killing of abortionists but who am I to impose my morality on anyone else. Lame. |
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" I'm personally against the killing of abortionists but who am I to impose my morality on anyone else. This man merely was exercising his right to
choose and he chose to kill Tiller. "
"Pro-life". The wicked rhetorical hypocrisy of extremists continues... |
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There you go again imposing your morality on everyone else. That's not very "progressive" of you.
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Isabelle101 wrote: Indeed. And now he will pay the price. Depending upon whether the state or the feds handle the prosecution, he is either going to spend the rest of his life in prison, or be dispatched from this mortal coil via lethal injection. All choices have consequences. |
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God. I've rarely seen a place on the internet that not only celebrates the killing of a American, but also the killing of a law-abiding American. Well, ok.
I've heard Stormfront is worse. I assume many of you frequently go there.
You people who celebrate this are less than animals, really. Not even fit for internet access, let alone citizenship. No wonder the Right is dying. All you have a liars and people who engage in racism and now murder. No wonder the GOP is disintegrating...they have too many nutburgers like you people in their Party. Jesus Christ on a bagel, you people are repulsive. And what's more. I don't wish death on any of you fucktards. Not even I would go that low. Buncha douchebags. |
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I guess this troll has never been to the Daily Kos where they routinely call for the execution of President Bush. This is probably someone from Boreticia's
leftwing circle-jerk board coming here to troll and disrupt threads.
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Wyld One 100 wrote: What is it about birth that magically grants the right to life? Why is it that a baby who is physically identical but is located on the other side of the birth canal does not have that right? |
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People who dismember children alive are not human.
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Yes, there is a price to everything. Mother Theresa said "The fruit of abortion is Nuclear War". It seems we are getting closer to the fulfillment of
her prophetic words.
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